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Lions Confirmed

PA Mountain LionYou read it here first: Mountain lions still exist in Pennsylvania:

Just prior to the start of Pennsylvania’s two-week firearms deer season, the volunteers at the Eastern Puma Research Network put out a call to hunters. They wanted to hear from anyone who saw a mountain lion or signs of one, like tracks or scats.

Lion sightings they got. Hard evidence that wild, free-ranging mountain lions are living in the state they did not.

“It’s so hard to pin anything down,” said John Lutz, the West Virginia man who heads the network, a non-scientific affiliation of mountain lion seekers across the eastern United States. “A cougar or puma is like a UFO with four feet.”

That doesn’t stop some from believing mountain lions do exist in the East. Lutz and several other volunteers are planning to travel to Bedford County within a few days of the next snowfall, in fact, to look for cougar sign because several sightings have been reported there in recent months.

Remember this post from February 28, 2005″

An Amish farmer along 944 in Cumberland County complained to the PGC a mountain lion was killing his sheep. They came out and investigated. Their conclusion: “Sir, you don’t have a mountain lion.” A week later the farmer shot the mountain lion. The very sad news: there was a PGC ear tag on it.

Or this one from Valentine’s Day last:

One solution [to the loss of ginseng] that [this complete “nut” ] believes will ensure the herb’s survival is to reintroduce mountain lions, wolves or other natural predators to the Appalachians.

Meow!

UPDATE:  Check out this photo!

UPDATE: An alert reader took this photo late September, 2008, from his trail camera near Plummer, PA.

UPDATE: An alert reader sent this photo of a mountain lion taken about three weeks ago (September 2009) near Farmington, Pa, in Fayette County. It had recently killed a buck and was dragging it across the road.
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UPDATE: Well, you can’t believe everything you read on the internet…turns out this was not in PA:

http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/04/17/deer-management-and-some-thoughts-on-predator-control/

99 Responses to “Lions Confirmed”

  1. Gene Says:

    Waitaminit, not so fast, as I read the article, the Couger Network says: “I think what we would say is that there is no credible evidence right now of a mountain lion population in Pennsylvania.” It is preposterous to think otherwise. Fuzzie, I would like to sell you the PA Turnpike for one dollar!!

  2. Fuzzie Says:

    Deal.
    One Dollar for the entire PA Turnpike. Great buy. Now, if I can only close it during hunting season, since all the deer are around it.

    Lion sightings they got. Hard evidence that wild, free-ranging mountain lions are living in the state they did not.

    “It’s so hard to pin anything down,” said John Lutz, the West Virginia man who heads the network, a non-scientific affiliation of mountain lion seekers across the eastern United States. “A cougar or puma is like a UFO with four feet.”

    That doesn’t stop some from believing mountain lions do exist in the East. Lutz and several other volunteers are planning to travel to Bedford County within a few days of the next snowfall, in fact, to look for cougar sign because several sightings have been reported there in recent months.

  3. John A. Lutz Says:

    Folks, the above article is slightly different then what I originally said. Since beginning studies in 1965, we have accumulated a considerable amount of hard evidence, including plaster casts of confirmed tracks, photographs & videotapes that had been confirmed as a cougar or black panther and most recently discoveries of deer kill sites in svereal easetrn states.
    Hard evidence does exist and has been confirmed by independent professional scientists. However, most wildlife officials absolutely refuse to acknowledge the evidence, thus they continue to bury their heads in the sand, hoping the big cats will disapper.
    Even a few DEAD pumas have been found & identified after being struck & killed on highways in New York, Kentucky, Michigan, Illinois & Pennsylvania. That’s right folks, even in Pennsylvania.
    John A. Lutz, Director, Eastern Puma Reserach Network

  4. madpenguin Says:

    I have recently (1/13 -1/15 – 2006) spotted a mountain lion, at my developement in Elizabethtown, PA. It was ealry saturday morning, about 2:30 AM, I was out having a smoke on my porch. I heard a very low growling, and couldn’t make out what it was. The next morning the littel girl next door, came out and said, that her dad had seen a mountian lion, or as it was stated a large cat around the woods behind our houses. Sunday morning around 1:00 AM, my dog was acting very strangely (she barks at cats all the time in the neighborhood) and agian I was headed out for a smoke. I saw a very large for a cat, small for the local stray dogs, moving at the other neighbors house about 30 yards away. I usually see alot of stray cats around, but not this weekend. Right about 3:00 AM, I heard 3 shots, in succession, off in the direction I noticed the large form was headed, when I spotted it. I have not seen or heard it since. But now I keep my shotgun, beside the back door. I had thought about telling the game comission, but the neighbor who also spotted it did that, and they told him he was seeing things. Who knows. For location information, I live in E-Town between Middletown, and E-town, main cities, alon Rt. 230. The state game lands is behind my house at about 200 yards. The access trail to get to it is 1 mile from the entrance to my developement, at Cedar Manor.

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  6. Ad Crable Says:

    Hi madpenguin. This is Ad Crable, outdoors editor of the Lancaster New Era. I saw your post here about seeing a cougar. I am doing research currently on a story about the possibility they still exist in Pennsylvania. Could you please contact me at 481-6029 from 6:30 a.m.-2:30 p.m. or in the evenings at 399-2911. Thanks. I need to hear from you no later than Thursday.

  7. Pennsylvania: Hunt. Fish. Shoot. » Perry Coyotes Says:

    [...] Mountain lion? I didn’t think there were any mountain lions in Pennsylvania. [...]

  8. david orlowski Says:

    Justwanted to let you know that on june 7,2006 I saw a mountain lion here in Potter county ,Pa. I saw it in a field about 2 miles from Keating Summit on route 155 heading toward Port Alleghany, Pa. I have hunted and trapped most my life and have also seen numerous bobcats and it wasn;t one either. I know what I saw and the other day a friend told me he saw one to just about 3 miles south of the same place.

  9. Craig Says:

    I believe I spotted a mountain lion on Laural Hill Summit in Westmoreland, Co PA. While out walking along the Laural Hill Hiking Trail I took a side trail that took me out to a dirt road that runs along the top of the ridge. About 300 or so yards away I spotted something standing in the middle of the dirt road, at first it looked like a deer, but once it started moving it had much larger legs and walk more like a cat then what a deer walks like. Just wished I got a better look at it. Could this have been a Mountain Cat?

  10. Helen Says:

    Regarding that closeup photo taken on Grandfather Mountain–it is indeed likely that the cougar was seen on Grandfather Mountain. The Grandfather Mountain Zoo has as many as three captive cougars. Check out this photo: http://flickr.com/photos/bsmart/177910074/

  11. M D Miller Says:

    Ok I have spent most of my life stomping around the woods in PA, I am not sure if big cats have come back to pa or not. I have not seen one in
    person. It is my understanding that black cats or panthers are not just a color phase like black squirels are. Instead they are native to South
    America. So I don’t put much credability in those reports of seeing a black cat. But even more shocking to me was to find out after reading the
    article asking hunters to be aware and look for and report any sign to an organization that was started in the early 80′s. Who was thinking about
    big cats back then. We were haveing a hard time getting anyone to believe us about coy dogs or coyotes. So are we looking for a wild cat that migrated
    its way back to PA, Or are we looking for somebodies big pet that would like to see them repopulate the Commonwelth.

  12. Walter taylor Says:

    I seen mountain lion or some big cat on a Dirt bike trail. On the railroad bed between Delano and lofty woods. I was moving along with some speed and came to a slow corner. As so I came around the bend to the left I seen part of the head and shoulders back jumping up the on bank. I didn’t think much of it at the time. But I was told there are no big cats in pa. It was tan in color as I seen.

  13. Tim Baker Says:

    I saw what I believe to be a mountain lion or some kind of very large feline. It was on December 10th, 2006. I was waiting for my ex to pick up my daughter and my girl friend saw what she said was a mountain lion in the woods near our house. It was around 3:30PM which surprized me because I thought that large cats like that would stay more hidden until night fall. I managed to get a picture with my digital camera but the mountain lion was some distance away.

  14. Fuzzie Says:

    Send me the photo…I may be able to get some detail to post it.

  15. robert cazille Says:

    i live in west caln town ship chester county pa my neibior
    is a very well know archer ,very recently spoted a mountian lion three times
    during october /nov hunting within 1/2 mile of our res. just though everyone should know
    they are here

  16. cathy Says:

    I saw a mountain lion last night on my way home from work. It was about 8:30 at night at the border between Bucks and Lehigh counties. It was just slowly crossing the road headed into a wooded patch. I was surprised to know that big cats live so close to me.

  17. Cathy A. Says:

    It was in 2004. I was at my kitchen sink and watching out the window up onto a path behind my house. To the north of my house is land that is owned by the water authority. That is when I saw a fox running with something in its mouth. I thought to myself, “Lucky fox, wonder what he has.” Next thing I saw was a huge feline chasing after him. It was way too big to be a housecat. It was more about the size of my 100 pound labrador retriever. For you skeptics, I well know the difference between canine and feline, and it was definetly feline. I immediately recalled that a few months prior to the sighting that my son and myself were woken up to this loud screaming coming from the land behind my house. It was scary, loud and sounded like a screaming banchee. Both my son and I, being curious about anything regarding nature, were scared to death to go outside. We had never heard that sound before and haven’t heard it since. The screaming lasted about an hour. It wasn’t until I saw the fox incident that I suspected it was a mountain lion. A couple months later I was telling a taxidermist about it and he told me that he had reports from hunters that they insisted they saw lions during hunts. I live in Carbon County and have seen everything from bear, deer, foxes, to coyote. I have never heard or seen this animal again. I am convinced it was a mother mountain lion trying to save her cub. I was blessed to see it, but most people I share the story with are argumentive. I guess seeing is believing.

  18. Jack Says:

    I saw a mountain lion(Coger, whatever) slightly less than full grown on the road outside of my development midway between Gouldsboro and Newfoundland in Septemper on 2006. Despite much critism to thye contrary I know it was a mountain lion and am anxious to know of anyone else who could confirm my sighting.

  19. tony glazer Says:

    I seen a mountain lion last week , he was being followed , by BIGFOOT as a matter of fact!!!

  20. jan Says:

    I saw a very large black cat in my yard 3/18/07. It was about the size of a bobcat but black with a very long tail.
    What was it?

  21. Stephanie Says:

    I know how unbelievable this sounds but I will never forget it. About 20 years ago, I saw a very large black or dark brown cat when I was walking up my driveway in rural McKean County (near Bradford) at dusk one night. It was as big as my Irish Setter; it was about 20 yards in front of me pouncing on something small that I could not see. I stopped in shock; it took off into the nearby woods. I told people but other than to say there had been similar sightings, no one knew what to make of it.
    It’s my only sighting. Never saw bigfoot, ufos, ghosts, or an honest politician.

  22. jennifer Says:

    My boyfriend and I have also spotted a mountain lion. We live in the back of duncannon and the mountain lion was on the edge of the woods walking. we couldn’t believe what we were seeing. We were able to grab the binoculars and look and my boyfriend grabbed the camera and started sneaking down trough the field to get a picture but it spotted him so he got a picture and we had it blown up a few sizes but it is blurry from being enhanced and you can make it out if you know what it is, but it is our word since we are the only ones who saw it. The game commission was contacted but they said that it probably wasn’t a mountain lion. but we definitely know what we saw.

  23. Bill Says:

    I don’t believe you can discount so many separate reports. Just because there is a lack of abundant hard evidence, that does not disprove their existence. PA is loaded with Bobcat but if you ask people who spend a great deal of time in the woods they will admit very few sightings. I was born and raised in the country and after 44 years in the outdoors, I can count on one hand my bobcat sightings. How many bobcat remains are found in the woods? How many bobcat are found dead on the road? Bobcat are very elusive, I’m sure cougars are even more-so. It’s only a matter of time before a photo and story of one is plastered all over the PA papers. I just hope it isn’t tied to a tragic event.

  24. jim Says:

    cougars are being seen in the beech creek rd area from rt144 to beech creek.this is clinton county,pa.

    pgc will not admit there are cougars..

  25. chrstine moore Says:

    Jim Thorpe PA Pleasent Valley West. Niegbor sighted long body, long tail outside looking out her window. Looked agian, saw pointed ears and the cat ran off. She has lived hear many years has seen sevral Bobcats most surely knows this was not a Bobcat. The following weekend my son and his friend were outback in the yard and noticed sevral footprints of large cat prints in the snow. This was not a bear, dog, or a house cat. We called the PGC I was told that there were NO such thing as a Mountian Lion in PA, it must of been mistaken for a Bobcat. Watching and waiting for next sight.

  26. Jen Dean Says:

    I on april 3rd I was walking my dog behind the franklin mint I was down by the creek when I came across a large footprint. I could’nt image what would make a print like this, it was larger then any print a dog would leave. So I thought it might be a wolf or a bear. As I walked further I saw more prints and decided to turn around. Later I looked up footprints online and realized that the footprint wasnt a bear, or a wolf. So I looked up what a bobcat footprint would look like and it was on that website that the footprint I saw was identical to a mountian lion. I wouldnt think that this would be possiable around here. Does anyone know who I should contact about this because I would hate to see someone get hurt.

  27. Eric Wells,Protestant Laird of Glencairn Says:

    It is improbable,bordering on idiotic to not see the inevitable.I live in Boardman,Ohio which is a suburb of Youngstown,minutes from the Pennsylvania state line. As I hunt,hike and fraternize with many in the Keystone State(most beautiful place on Earth), the concensus regarding the return of the catamount is strong.Sporadic sightings in Pennsylvania can no longer be dismissed as mere folly and within twenty years,or less,the Commonwealth will again become part of his permanent range.there are entirely too many white tailed deer (and this close to Canada,for that matter)for his return to not happen!As an NRA Benefactor member and avid outdoorsman I’m more than enchanted by the return of this most masterful predator;as he again takes his rightful place in a flawless ecological calculus that could only have been the result-NOT OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN- but omniscient!!

  28. TW Says:

    Not sure if many have heard, but I did find an article on the internet a couple of weeks ago that stated the PGC has confirmed mountain lion tracks in Fulton County. I am posting an article here that talks about it, and also discusses a confirmed mountain lion in 2004. The mountain lion in Fulton County is in the Crystal Spring area. Sightings in Bedford County (bordering Fulton) have gone through the roof in the last year. I have spoken to many reputable people who have spent years in the woods, and all insist they know what they have been seeing.

    http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/281-01052006-593130.html

  29. Bob Says:

    i saw a UFO outside my window yesturday too!!!!

  30. Bob Says:

    i think i saw a flying pig fighting a elaphant on rollerskates!!!

  31. Ben Says:

    There really are these “lions” in Pa. I know they exist here. There are footprints in my backyard not too long ago. And t was said to be a bobcat. Id like to see a Bobcat with the footprint nearly one size bigger than mine! Can the game commision hide this from us? Can this be there best well hidden secrets in Pa???? I hope we dont find out the hard way.

  32. Tom Says:

    i saw a flying dog trying to eat a pancake moster outside my winow today!!! can there be pancake monsters in Pa????? thats like saying theres a lion in pa to.

  33. Craig Ammon Says:

    Just like Robert Cazille I to live in W. Caln township. About 8 months ago I was rehabbing my knee and was sitting in one of the rooms of Soar rehab on business RT. 30 which is 2 mins from where I live. It was about 8 AM. While I was waiting I was looking out of the window and saw a large animal in the neighbors yard behind Soar. My first reaction was it was a Dog. I have 2 large dogs and the more I watched it the more it looked and moved like a large cat to me. It was stalking something by a large tree. It was brown, had a long tail that just before it hit the ground it curled up and the tip of it was black. I am 99.9% sure that what I saw was a cougar. The scary thing is it was just a couple yards down from a day care.

  34. Jessica Says:

    We have just recently had a disturbing run-in with a mountain lion up on our newly established home on 13 acres. We live near East Brady on the Butler/Armstrong Co. line. We heard a scream one night about 11:30 PM and our dog began to yelp in pain. My father-in-law made it to our front door quickly enough to see the mountain lion leaping off our front deck and running around the back side of the house. Only thing that saved the dog was the fact he made it into his kennel. The mountain lion/cougar paced our woodline for quite some time after that, we could hear it making a strange grunting noise and were able to get glimpses of it with the mag-lite. PGC told me we probably saw a Maine Coon cat. Ridiculous. They also said in the same breath that if it continued to be a nuisance and took it down, to call them so they could come and gather data from it.

  35. Ben Says:

    cody queen and mitch say hi……..

  36. Doug Says:

    Jessica from East Brady… Can you please give me additional information as to where you leave near the Butler / Armstrong County border near East Brady. I grew up, and still live in the area near Parker. I have extensive experience in the woods and hills surrounding the Brady area from Parker to Brady. I too am like you and firmly convinced of the exsistence of mountain lions in PA. Due to the fact that this sighting is relatively recent I would like to further investigate. I spend at least 3-days a week in the woods in that area. Please respond to this board with any additional information.

  37. Henry Heimbach Says:

    On 07/04/07 at 8pm while sitting on my side porch I saw a mountain lion run across my neighbors yard. I know my cats and was not mistaken it was at least 7 foot from nose to tail. There is a deer trail at that spot it crossed. My house is in Berks County, PA. near Boyertown.

  38. Michael Bedore Says:

    I was driving at dusk in Wayne County near Hawley PA on Saturday, June 30, 2007 and saw two mountain lions cross leisurely in front of my truck. One large, sandy colored the size of a medium/small dog, and a smaller baby one. They were most certainly not house cats as the small one was the size of a full grown cat and the other was considerably larger. They lept onto a rock wall across the street, walked along the wall a bit then jumped off into the woods.

  39. Gene Says:

    There has been several sightings of mountain lions in Clarion Co. Perry Twp. area. A mother and cubs has been spotted.

  40. Bob Says:

    973-769-9053
    I saw a mountain lion up in Equinuck, Pennsylvannia (Zip code)18417. I saw tracks and I measured them to be a four inch pad. It was definitley a mountain lion track. My neighbor also saw one too. This occurred on July 23rd, 2007. Call me if you need any information

  41. Bill Says:

    I spotted a mountain lion on Rt. 30 in Frazer PA on 8-1-07 at approximately 4 AM. I am not a hunter nor a woodsman but I know what I saw. I always keep my eyes open when driving at night due to the deer population in this area but this blew me away. At first I suspected it was a deer but it was definitely a cat…..a big cat. I stopped a policeman about a mile from where I spotted it and he looked at me like I was nuts. I know for a fact that this was a mountain lion somewhere around 150 lbs., feet the size of softballs and a tail about 3 feet long and very large in diameter.

  42. Robert Says:

    Live in Harleysville PA. ABout 12 months ago was walking with a friend along a walking trail near a creek. Right off of PA 63. Heard the wildest sceeching noise I ever heard. It sounded like a large cat that was being pulled a part. Both he and I decided to pick up the pace. I have run past that spot 30+ times since then and never heard it again. Fast forward a few months. A woman reports seeing a mountain lion near a small pond early this summer. The pond is at the begining of the trail. Everyone thought she was crazy.

    2 weeks ago from tpday 7 neighbors reported seeing a mountain lion walk right down their street around 9AM. Street is located near the trail. I believe they were getting the kids ready for soccer so they were all out. They have supposedly found the den where it lived (right where I heard the screaming 12 months earlier. They believe that 3 animals bedded down at the spot. They are all freaked out and have spot lights blazing away all night. My guess is that the lions will move on. Probbaly into Evansville park which is connected by the stream bed. At leasst that’s where I would go.

    The incident was in the Harleysville paper and I do not run down by the stream bed at dawn alone anymore.

  43. Fred Says:

    In response to number 8 above, I spotted something OTHER than a bobcat on US Route 6 just a mile or so east of Port Allegany, PA, crossing the highway right in front of me. The cat stopped and looked right at me and I got a good look at it enough to know it was NOT a bobcat, housecat, dog, turtle, deer, racoon, rooster, or any other animal, vegetable, or mineral. I have seen bobcats before and I hunt and hike frequently so I know what bobcats look like and this was NOT a bobcat. It had a definitive black stripe down the middle of its forehead that caught my eye as well as smooth, shorter-hair, more solid color reddish brown fur, with white underneath. It had what I can only describe as a wide face with wide-set eyes. It was about the size of a medium dog and looked to be about 3-4 feet long and maybe 2 feet high. The tail was long, much longer than a bobcat’s. This was just spotted last week, September 19, 2007 at 4:30 on a sunny afternoon.

  44. Camron Says:

    I just saw a mountian loin outside of my house. I live outside Port Allegany PA. It was less than 200 feet from my house on the mountain behind my yard. I saw him clearly. There is a creek at the bottom of the hill, so it may have been getting some water. It saw me and just walked up the hill into the woods. I am sure that it was a cougar, I saw him clearly. The trees at the bottom of the hill are not thick at all.

  45. Paula Says:

    Also in Frazer area (chester co. ) property backs up to large wooded tract. Tonight, 5:20, heard the Screaming” sound of the mountain lion behind the house over at the edge of the woods. Heard it abouta month ago also, but just one night. We last heard this about 6 years ago, also in the fall. Saw the mountain lion about 12 years ago sitting at the back edge of our property–tan color,at first thought it was a short haired large dog, but then it slowly walked along the weedline…and it had a long skinny tail. We normally have alot of deer eating the fallen apples but this fall we have seen very few. Do the deer know we have company?

  46. Mike Says:

    We have heard rumors for several months and a few eye witness reports but this seems to be pretty solid evidence for a Mt.Lion in Armstrong County.

    http://www.wpxi.com/news/14540017/detail.html

  47. Fuzzie Says:

    From an alert reader:
    I have seen what I believe to be mountain lion tracks here in Luzerne County. I
    was recently bow hunting in october near Jonestown Mountain and saw large cat
    prints on a trail embedded into a sizeable mud pit….i know what coyote tracks
    look like and this was definitely feline.

  48. rideon Says:

    in 2001 I saw what was probably the same mt lion twice in the same field . This was the Shay area of Armstrong County Pa. It crossed directly in front of me, turning to look directly at me,and thankfully kept going. It made no sound. I can understand why there aren’t many pictures, you are caught completely off guard when you see one, and I certainly wasn’t looking for one. This was very large .Very long thick dragging tail, I’d say as long as the body. I was dumb enough to actually go look where it went, as soon as gained my composure, and it was like it disappered into thin air. It traveled with it’s body very low to the ground, so I would imagine it could have been hidden in the tall grass. That’s where it came from, and then crosssed a well worn wide trail, then right back into the tall grass of another field.This wasn’t a case of looking for something to believe in, I had never even thought about it. Actually, I always wanted to see a bobcat, but I have still not seen one of those. A mt. lion wasn’t in my wildest dreams, but there he or she was. And I’m talking within 40 ft. if not closer.It was a beatiful animal, but I really do not wish to have them around here. I hate to see anything killed, but i don’t want our pets and livestock brought down by any of these. The neighbors goats had been attacked and killed by something months earlier, and now I think that’s probably what happened to them.

  49. PA Hiker Says:

    Just found this message board and thought I would post my sighting. In October 2006, a fellow field researcher and myself were hiking on top of Chestnut Ridge in Westmoreland Co. Near one of the bear ponds (built by PGC), at approximately 100yds distance I spotted something crouching close to the ground. At first I thought it was a dog or a bear cub, that is until it spotted us and took off down into the woods. The best description I can give is that it had a large round head with small pointed ears (didn’t see a face because it was looking away from us), when it leaped up I could tell it had a thick, round body 3 to 4feet in length and a thick tail that looked to be about two feet in length and between 1 or 2inches in diameter. The fur was either black or dark brown, not the typical beige color of a north american mountain lion. When the animal spotted us, it did a vertical leap and took off running with the front dual feet motion of a large cat (similar to what you would see when Wild Kingdom or Animal Planet shows a jaguar or leopard chasing its prey) My friend and I did a lengthy search of the woods in the direction the animal ran, but could not find any tracks or other evidence. The following weekend I returned to the area and baited several locations with raw ground meat, hot dogs, and fish. I found a location at the base of a tree on a hillside overlooking the site, where I hoped to capture a photo with my 400power zoom lens SLt camera. After about 3 hours I gave up. I have been hiking the ridge line for about 8yrs and have never seen anything like what I saw in 2006.
    In January 2002 near this same location, 3 of us tracked what appeared to be mountain lion tracks for over 2 miles in 15inches of snow. The tracks were about 4inches in diameter at the widest point with a 3 1/2 foot stride between front leg to opposing hind leg. What we found odd was the distinctive drag mark between the tracks that we believed was made by a long tail. The PGC was notified in 2002 and 2006, but of course we received the rehearsed response, “We don’t have mountain lions in Pennsylvania”! I know what I saw and I sincerely believe that either mountain lions are re-populating in PA or we have several rogue cats passing through the state. I will be returning to the area again this weekend and if I find any new evidence I will be posting it on this message board.

  50. thetones Says:

    I saw a mountain lion in McKean County. Late one afternoon I was taking some video of a Jacob’s creature (also known as a mangy black bear) and then all of the sudden a Pennsylvania Puma lept from the bushes and pounced on the Jacob’s creature. They fought for a while and it was vicious. After several minutes they stoppend and then ran off together to watch the sunset over the Allegheny Reservoir. I think they were hoping to catch a glimpse of Kinzua Katie, our version of the Loch Ness monster. Like bigfoot, Nessie, and UFOs, I will believe there are Pennsylvania Pumas when I see a dead one on my doorstep.

  51. stevens Says:

    Ouch that was harsh. Mt.Lions pumas big cats ect ect who cares, Why would you hunt something and kill it if you wont eat it, Now thats not sportsmanship thats just killing.
    The only thing I would ever wanna shoot any big cat with is a camera or video.
    But thats my stance not everyone elses so forgive me for expressing my veiws when not asked for.
    I personlly hve nevver seen a big cat in PA but common sense tells me if there in all the other states well than theres bound to be at least on or two here in PA I meen why would we be so specail that a big cat would choose NOT to live herte huh ??

  52. Fuzzie Says:

    An alert reader sent this message:

    I was wondering if you ever heard of anyone in Schuylkill County seeing a cougar or Mt. Lion? This afternoon [2/6/2008] in my back yard, my fiance and I both saw one, it ran right across my back yard and straight up through my neighbors field. It ran really fast, was tanish orange in color and had a long tail. I am curious if anyone else saw it! It was not a dog or a bob cat, I know what I saw!!!

  53. KevinB Says:

    I have seen several cougars in Schuylkill and Carbon Counties. Most of my sightings have been along Rt 209
    near Nesquehoning, Coaldale and near Middleport. I have heard of many black panther sightings in Coaldale and New Ringgold. There are also reports of cougar sightings in the Lewistown Valley. Its sad to say but most people you tell
    will think your crazy. Their minds are made up and no matter what you tell them you will be wrong. I know they are
    being scientific they need proof. I have just one question for you scientific skeptics. What proof do you have that
    the Eastern Cougar is extinct? I’m guessing you do not have any. Do you honestly think we could ever wipe out a master of stealth like the cougar? I very much doubt we would be able to wipe them out even in todays times with the aid of nightvision scopes. Think about it there is alot of woodlands in Pennsylvania. How did they accomplish such an amazing
    feat back in the late 1800′s. I have another question for the skeptics. If you saw a cougar do you think you would be intelligent enough to know? What I’m getting at is cougars are pretty recognizable animals. Who hasn’t seen an image of a cougar? When you see one you know it. Unfortunately most sightings happen so quick that even if you had a camera in
    hand you probably would not get the camera turned on before it was over. As far as trail cameras I’m dissapointed that most have atleast a one minute delay before they take a picture. One of my solutions is 24hr surveilance I have night vision cameras and a dvr. All I need is to set it up at the right place at the right time. I would appreicate anyone
    that takes the time to report any cougar sightings no matter how long ago they took place. I live near the Carbon/Schulkill County line so if you live nearby I would like to start investigating immediately. Most cougars will never attack a person there is not much reason to fear them. They are very skittish and afraid of people and they should
    be after all we tried to wipe them out. My belief is that most people will have been in the prescence of a wild cougar
    at some point during their lifetime. I also believe 95% or more will never know it. Like I said any help would be
    appreciated. I can be reached at fngonuts@hotmail.com

    Just my personal opinions based on my observations and the observations of other credible witnesses of wild cougars in the state of Pennsylvania.

  54. bearclaws Says:

    My family has heard and saw a big brown & tan cat behind our house. We are scared to death because of the children. Who can we contact? No one I talked to will listen. Someone please help it”s been here and gone for the pass year.

  55. Fuzzie Says:

    An alert reader sent this:
    There was a bulletin put out in my community about a mountain lion sighting in Canadensis, PA. Sure enough a few days later, my father-in-law was driving down one of the main roads and saw it crossing the road going towards the creek. Just wanted to verify that there are lions here in PA.

  56. Fuzzie Says:

    Another alert reader sent this:

    I am totally new to the mountain lion “do they/don’t they exist in PA” discussion. But I must say, after my sister’s finding this morning, I’m a believer that they DO exist. While tending the horses & other animals, she noticed our Barbado sheep, Emma, not in her pen. She spotted a blood trail along side the barn, called the PA State Police and together they followed the blood trail to her body, tore to shreds. Mountain lion tracks all around her. People of Big Run (just outside Lykens, PA) keep a lookout!

  57. Fuzzie Says:

    UPDATE: An alert reader took this photo late September, 2008, from his trail camera near Plummer, PA.

  58. Odato Says:

    The picture attached to this thread is of a bobcat. can’t believe all you outdoorsmen think otherwise. look at the ears and the bob tail

  59. Zermoid Says:

    Why don’t one of you people who see these Mountain Loins Shoot it?
    Then take it down to the Game Commission office and drop it on their desk, see if they still deny it is a Mountain Lion then. Even better would be to take it to the local news station and get it on the air first then take it to the Game Commission, that way they couldn’t quietly dismiss it as being something other than what it is. While destroying the evidence as well.

  60. Mike570 Says:

    I believe I saw a Mountain Lion in late summer of 2006 in Luzerne County, near Hanover Township. I was walking to my brother’s house through the woods and the path I was on intersected another path. I got to the intersection and I glanced down the other path. I saw a HUGE cat with a long tail. At first it didn’t register and I continued walking. A few steps later what I just saw hit me and I looked back. It was standing there staring at me. I stared back for over a minute. Maybe two. Finally it turned away and continued walking down the path. It never growled or made any threatening moves. I didn’t know about this discussion before today. I always assumed they were native to the area.

  61. John A. Lutz Says:

    In response to Zermoid comments, if U took a dead cougar to a local PGC Office, they probably would quietly remove it & deny it was ever dropped it on their doorstep. look at what the PGC did in Lancaster recently when a Amish Farmer was attacked by a cougar. To save face, the agency declared the event a “hoax”. Just another example of “burying your head in the sand” to save face.
    If someone ever finds a dead cougar in Pennsylvania, where they do exist, the body should be taken to the Harrisburg Office of the Patriot Newspaper or The Lancaster Era in that city & shown to a news reporter. Being objective, they would surely publish an article and document the cougar’s presence. Multiple hot-spots of activity are very active in PA, where Special Field Studies are underway. We ask anyone with knowledge of recent cougar activity, please contact epuma@hardynet.com so further investigations can begin. Thank you.

  62. rideon Says:

    OK all you nay sayers. Log on to kdka.com and watch the video on someones trail camera of a black panther roaming aroung at McConnell’s Mills State Park in Butler or Lawrence county.Good footage. Of course the Game Commission want to “examine it”. I’m sure they will say it’s someones house cat, blah, blah, blah, and call the guy a liar.Take a look for yourself, look at that tail. The guy thought he was watching a black bear on video until he saw the tail. Tell us again….How rare is it to see a BLACK one? cause about ten years back, a local truck drivers swears he saw one in Arnmstrong County at a strip mine

  63. keystonescorpio Says:

    I live in Albrightsville, Carbon County, and last summer there were 3 sightings of a mountain lion in our development. Warnings were posted after the third sighting and it was confirmed that this was not a hoax. The PGC will always deny that the big cats are here because they would lose face on another front just as they mismanage our deer population.

  64. MYXOMOP Says:

    The cat photo up top is a bobcat. The white thumb prints are visible on the ear. There will be a lecture about cougars at the CCEEC at Mauch Chunk Dam west of Jim Thorpe, Carbon County, PA on December 10 @ 6pm.

    There may well be cougars in PA, but as yet, no one has turned in any solid evidence. This is what the Cougar Network is saying.

  65. jr Says:

    My parents have seen a female and 2 cubs in ther back yard the end of Aug. I was up there hunting first 2 days of deer and we saw 6 black bears. I had talk to my mother this evening and stated they saw one mountain lion in the back yard lieing down under the tree.

  66. rideon Says:

    JR, where do your parents live?

  67. thipp473 Says:

    In the spring of 2006 my daughter and I saw a mountain lion running across our front lawn carrying one of our laying hens in its mouth. I took off after it and yelled, it completely ignored me, then ran into a nearby woods. There was a distance of about 40 ft. and I had a clear vison of what I saw. A neighbor saw what she described an unusual looking large animal a few days later. When I showed her a picture of a mountain lion she said that’s what it was. We live near Spring Grove PA in southwestern York County. The area is rural and there is a heavily wooded area known as the Pigeon Hills nearby that would provide plenty of habitat for a mountain lion. Some people have tried to convince me it was a fox, big dog, etc. With the pointed ears, long tail and slender body there is no doubt it was a mountain lion.

  68. ronjamin Says:

    In 1976 both my father and I saw big cat tracks with a tail drag in the snow, which was nearly up to my rear end. I was six years old.

    This was in McKean County in a place called Irons Mountian. Today that area is controlled by a paper company that limits hunting there. Its a vast area on a plateau that one can easily get lost in without a compass.

    Another camp member saw a cougar between Smethport and Port Allegheny.

    These cats exist. If you use regular house cats as an example, how many of them do you really see walking around your neighborhood? There are hundreds of them in the urban areas yet they remain largely out of sight.

    Secondly, the bobcat is in PA, Ohio, NY, WV, and they are just as elusive. Your lucky to see one in a lifetime.

    Thirdly, these animals, like bears, are largely confined to remote areas, however, a population could be a problem. For example, Los Angeles has them practically in the metropolitian area. And lets not forget how coyotes have populated urban areas. And bears are known to encroach on human settlements these days. Its just a matter of time. Theres too much forest and places to hide. Cats are smart. They can be right next to you and you would never know it.

  69. brenton36 Says:

    My name is brenton i live in elk county. I’ve seen two mountain lions at once. You can believe me or not but i thought i would share my story. I went for a walk out behind my house in 2006. I had my 30-30 with me and sat down for a little bit to watch the woods. Then i herd something running threw the woods. what it sounded like was a a car driving threw the woods, the sound branches breaking was something I’ve never herd. Then to the lefted of me a deer was running full speed and following it was a something huge that looked like a cat. I stood up and was about to start heading home when a small mountain lion walked up to me. It was the size of a big bobcat but the tall was too long. It walked 10 yards a way and stood looking at me. I pulled my gun on him and was about to shoot but i stopped. I knew what this cat was, and the huge cat like animal i saw chasing the deer had to be one too, the mom even. I scared it away and ran home. This was the mosted scared ive ever been in the woods. But it was the best in the way. I was not the only one where i live to see signs or even the mountain lions. The Game commission will say other wise but i no there out there.

  70. DP-Ohio Says:

    After reading all of these comments, I know I am not crazy!!! I was on my way to work on Friday morning, 4/3/09, headed south bound on PA route 60 a few miles before New Castle. It was raining… and I was going about 70/mph. I was 2 miles before the Mitchell Rd. exit when I seen a grey Grand Am pulled over on the side of the road. About 50 yards in front of the car was a dead animal. At first I though it was another deer, but as I drove past it, it was way too big to be a deer. It had the face of a cat and the legs and paws were very big. I was running late for work and didnt have time to stop or turn around. My boyfriend is a nature expert and says that I am crazy and that it was probably a dog… he took the same route to New Castle a few hours later and he said he did not see anything. I know what I saw!! It was definetaly a cougar/mountian lion. I suspect that either the car I saw was the one that hit it, and backed up to make sure it was dead or they were driving by and spotted it as well and stopped to get a better look. If anyone knows or have heard about what I am talking about, please let me know.

  71. rmd83082 Says:

    Yes! You are NOT crazy! My boyfriend and I went out spotting for deer last night and sure enough, in a wide open field (by Round Top mountain), he blinked the spotlight on to what we thought was a deer! I looked through my binoculars only to find it was a mountain lion! It was fairly large, as big as a deer with a long tail. (so it wasn’t a bobcat, as bobcats have short tails!) He also looked at it through the binoculars and saw the same thing. We watched it walk into the woods. It had the sleek, predator walk. No question about it, it was a mountain lion.

  72. plumr Says:

    I live in Clinton County. I saw my first mountain lion aboutn 15 years ago and yesterday I saw my second one. The first one I was with a group of 10 people and WE ALL SAW IT!! Yesterday I was with my family and it walked across the road right in front of us.

    Friends of mine have been seeing Mountain lions here and there latey so they must be on the rise. I know what a Bobcat is I have seen my share of them and what I have seen are mountain lions.

    The PA Game Commision must get trained to lie about the subject. Do you guys remember how much they denied the existance of Coyote’s in PA….. I mean they swore up and down there were none.. Now there is open season on Coyote’s.

    Moral of the story is Yes there are mountains cats in PA and yes the PA Game Commision will lie about them.

  73. buckhunter Says:

    ya boys no what the real kicker is? the jerks are truckn them in by the tractor trailer loads. they even been pulled over on centre hall mtn. but was left go cause the game comission showed up.

  74. buckhunter Says:

    there truckin them in

  75. Margo Says:

    At approximately 0300 hours this morning, July 28, 2009, in the residential area of the East Side of Dubois, I was loading my car with luggage. I heard clatter coming from down the street, and thought it odd that a neighbor was also leaving at the same time at that hour of the night. After I continued rearranging my luggage in the back seat, I stood up to walk away from my car and was amazed to see, for just a couple split seconds, an animal standing directly across the street in front of the neighbor’s garage under the light of the street lamp. I saw it was short-haired, grayish-looking and it appeared to be long through the body, quite tall with very long legs and quite a slender animal. I didn’t know what it was until it instantaneously ran, once it became aware of my presence. It wasnt until it ran that I knew it was a cat. I couldnt see it’s head and dont recall in those couple of seconds if it’s tail were long, or short. I set our garbage out to the curb earlier in the evening, which is where it was standing in front of, as though it intended to come over and search for food.

  76. Fuzzie Says:

    Larry writes:

    I am writing to report seeing two large Mountain Lions, my two sons and I seen while sitting and waiting for deer to appear in a field near my residence. I hear them coming from 30 or so yards off, thinking they were deer. Then heard nothing for the next few minutes. Then my step son Kyle said, hey look at that big owl. When I looked, I could hardly believe what I was seeing. This cat was 3 to 4 feet in length and its fat thick tail was 2 1/2 feet long, was sitting perched on a limb 15 feet on a tree, watching us from only twenty feet away. That’s when I saw a second cat just a few feet from the first. I had my camera but was so excited my pictures turned out blurry. Needless to say, I finally realized they were stalking us. We quickly got out of there. I became concerned for my children’s safety. I will never in all my life forget what I seen. Ive hunted, worked in logging industry, camped, fished and hiked most of the region for 30+ years, and never seen what Ive seen, until last night. 7/28/2009 I do plan on placing game cameras up soon hoping to catch a glimpse of these Big Cats. Please write back.

    Thanks
    Larry Bevans Lbevansjr@yahoo.com

  77. ajburf Says:

    My brother was coming home from work last week and when he was heading around the curve he said he had a mountain lion jump right out in front of him he said he slammed his brakes said the cat was at least 4 feet in length dark brown and had a long tail. This sighting was reported in Indiana County PA. The location is near New Florence, PA. Very thick terrain and a great deal of places for cats to hide.

  78. nathan1234 Says:

    just last week i saw one. didnt know what it was till i saw it climb a tree. i was gunna shoot it but didnt know if i would get a fine if i killed it or not. some one wanna tell me what should i do if i see it again?

  79. toddsneath Says:

    I live in Altoona PA. I’ve been a hunter all my life. I recently moved to the outskirts of the city where I have 3 acres bordering the woods. In the month I’ve lived here I’ve seen 12 deer a turkey and a red fox( which has a den in my field adjacent to my house). Today as my children preparing for football practice, my daughter called me to her room to show an animal walking across the top of our property. To my surprise it was a mountain lion. I know what a Bobcat looks like, For I’ve seen them in the wild before. There is no doubt in my mind what I saw. It was larger than my Brittany Spaniel with a long tail, and it was definitely a cat! I was tempted to shot it. It was less than forty yards away. My question to anyone who might know is, who can I call to check the legality of shooting it, because I’m told the game commission will simply tell me there are no mountain lions in central PA.

  80. BIGSTEVE Says:

    August 26th, 2009 at 9:10 Am
    Recently while hiking near Hyndman Pa. near Game lands 104 in Bedford County around 4:00pm on a hot July afternoon I was walking up to the top of whats known locally as Clites Farm. There is a large mountain farm 200 acres and also a 911 tower on the top of the mountain here above Hyndman. I rode my motorcycle up Tiger Valley rd about 5 miles to the Clites gate and parked the bike. I began my walk up the mountain early this day around 3:00 pm and as I walked I noticed how quiet it was along the way as I got closer to the top of the mountain I turned around and to my amazement and there at about 100 yds in the middle of the road stood a “BIG CAT” standing looking straight at me I would estimate its body was 24″ tall and 36″ to 48″ long its color was light brown with a tan & white face and it was looking straight at me it also had a long tail. It startled me at first and I must have moved or something because it started to slowly walk away from me out the road. Every so often it would stop turn and look back as if to see if I was still there. I got kinda scared due to not having a gun or weapon with me. I thought I was seeing things. I did not think these big cats existed in these parts. You would not have wanted to have tangled with this cat at all. I will think twice from here on out before going up there anymore. Since my glimpse of this cat there has been 2 small calves killed on this mans farm and the owners pet goat is missing too and also the property owner has seen what he thought was the same big cat a few weeks after my sighting. You really need to think twice about traveling these mountains alone or without protection I used to be skeptical about cats in these parts but not no more. Thanks, stevenleydig@gmail.com

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  81. oilfieldtrash Says:

    picture of lion on game cam in rew pa dragging a 10 point buck at three post feeder

  82. fas2005 Says:

    Just yesterday I received a photo from a trial camera in Bedford county. Its a mountain lion carrying a deer. I truly believe its not a fake. I also hunt in Illinois and I have seen big cats there, black as a matter of fact. And no, I have never seen a bigfoot.

  83. BIGSTEVE Says:

    Update on this Bedford County Cat – New sighting same farm 2 weeks ago near game lands 104 the farmer was riding his atv when suddenly the cat appeared crossing in the road in front of him at about 50 yards. He estimated the cats body was 4 feet long and he or she stood 3 ft tall. Long tail browm with white on its face. The cat looked him over briefly then bolted across the road. As mentioned prior the farms lost 2 calves and the pet goat. 1 calve carcass was found in the woods but the others were never found. Game lands 104 is a vast area comprising thousands of acres of wilderness with very limited access. I would estimate its land area to comprise 5 square miles plenty of room for a cat like this to be happy in. We’re going to try some bait and cameras to see if we can get some pictures for everyone to see. This cat is huge and very elusive so far but he or she is out there.

  84. ajburf Says:

    Do you have this picture??

  85. docc Says:

    sorry guys thats not a lion in pa

    here look at this .same photo taken in s.texas
    http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/05/21/mountain-lion-really-killed-this-whitetail/

  86. docc Says:

    i was looking at the pic this weekend started thinking the horns where to clean for this time of the year -no vevet — then i looked and noticed the fur was a winter coat not redish as the deer in pa are at this time of the year .. so i looked up —mountin lion draging a big buck … and bingo just as i thought not a pa lion -the pic was a fake –altho i do belive there are lions in pa this pic is not a pa lion
    the end

  87. docc Says:

    sorry guys thats not a lion in pa

    here look at this .same photo taken in s.texas
    http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/05/21/mountain-lion-really-killed-this-whitetail/
    i was looking at the pic this weekend started thinking the horns where to clean for this time of the year -no vevet — then i looked and noticed the fur was a winter coat not redish as the deer in pa are at this time of the year .. so i looked up —mountin lion draging a big buck … and bingo just as i thought not a pa lion -the pic was a fake –altho i do belive there are lions in pa this pic is not a pa lion
    the end

  88. markus0820 Says:

    I have also recieved the same trail cam pic, will have 2 download pic & send it 2 site 4 U all 2 check it out. No dought its a big cat & when U start 2 talk at work 2 other hunters 2% of them have witness a siting which all hesitate 2 saying what they have seen saying no one would believe them, one story from a volunteer game comish said after numerious reports near skytop mtn. of a big cat lead a game comish officer & him 2 check it out & put out 20 trail cams on sat. the following sat went 2 check the trail cams when almost there the cat jump out on the tram road in front of them, both in disbelieve watched the cat 4 several min. anxiously checking the trail cams had no pics of cat & couldnt find any scat. Didnt report since there was no evidence except what they seen wit there eyes, not good enough 4 harrisburg.

  89. EJ25 Says:

    I personally have never seen a mountain lion in PA, and the last credible sighting I know of in my area was from 1959. However, I’ve spent a considerable amount of time in the woods while hunting and fishing. I repeatedly find tracks, especially in the winter in or around deer season. One season, I cut 3 seperate tracks in 3 completely different, remote areas. If anyone is interested in looking around, the places I’m talking about are
    Paulfer Hill, Dunn’s Eddy, and the Coover’s Crossing Road side of York Hill. These areas are in the Youngsville, Tidioute and Pittsfield areas of Warren County, PA. (1 hour east of Erie, on route 6 and 15 minutes south of the NY State border on route 27).

    About 8-10 years ago, I found a partial skeleton of a whitetail deer about 300 yards behind my house. It was relatively fresh, though partially eaten and had been picked over by the crows and vultures. I took a closer look to see if I could identify what klled the deer, i.e. if a car had wounded it and it died there, or maybe a bullet wound. All I saw was a set puncture wounds in the skull near the point where the spine meets the head. It looked like canine incisors present in a large predator. There weren’t any tracks visible, but I have seen tracks within a mile, so it’s at least plausible that this site could be a mountain lion kill.

    This was on the north shore of the Brokenstraw Creek at the base of York Hill about 3/4 mile west of the old furniture factory.

    I currently live in southern california and have seen mountain lions and their tracks in person. So yes, I do know for sure that the tracks I’ve seen in PA are mountain lion tracks, and the PA tracks are generally a bit larger.

  90. dagored154 Says:

    the picture of the mt. lion carrying a buck is from the Dakota’s. It is not a PA photo. the other photo of a BOBCAT in the snow is not, I repeat, not a mt. lion. look at the ears and the 6″ tail gentlemen

  91. docc Says:

    docc Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    September 11th, 2009 at 6:12 am
    sorry guys thats not a lion in pa

    here look at this .same photo taken in s.texas
    http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/05/21/mountain-lion-really-killed-this-whitetail/
    i was looking at the pic this weekend started thinking the horns where to clean for this time of the year -no vevet — then i looked and noticed the fur was a winter coat not redish as the deer in pa are at this time of the year .. so i looked up —mountin lion draging a big buck … and bingo just as i thought not a pa lion -the pic was a fake –altho i do belive there are lions in pa this pic is not a pa lion
    the end

  92. the_electric_monk Says:

    The last picture of the mountain lion carrying a dead buck is NOT FROM PENNSYLVANIA. This has been online since at least May of 2009: http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/05/21/mountain-lion-really-killed-this-whitetail/ and was taken in Texas.

    This photo has been popping up in forums all over the internet this month, attributed to some SouthWestern PA trail camera. I heard about it from a friend who heard it from a bartender’s friend. Don’t believe the hype.

  93. hogdoginpa Says:

    In 1995 I was bow hunting in Shawnee State Park, close to the end of season when for the first time ever hunting this spot I saw no deer till all the suden I heard a noise below me and here came a small doe running full speed up through the woods and it was being chased by a huge cat with a very long tail. I sat in my treestand totally amazed heard some more noise at the top of the hill where they went to and then the cat came back down over the hill broad side to me 10 minutes later 50 yards max walking making no noise at all, trust me I got a really good look debated shooting it and then just watched it walk out of sight. no doubt about it it was a mountain lion. a few weeks later about a mile away a friends wife saw a big cat crossing route 30. I had called the Pa Game Commission and they told me the no mountain lions in Pa story but then said my report was like # 15 in Napier township.

  94. Nightmaster Says:

    Let’s use our heads here a little bit guys. Its not that hard to figure out WHY and HOW we have PA Mtn Lions…and why people see them so often.

    The exotic animal trade is a HUGE billion dollar business. Big cats including Mtn Lions and black cats are easily attainable through this market. Its not underground at all…its very open and easy to find, if you know where to look. Mt Hope Exotic sale is one of 20 in the US..and they sell Mtn lion cubs for 300.00-400.00 EASY.

    Our PA Mtn Lions arent truly wild…they’re escapes or releases from this trade..and once released/escaped…they beocme wild and DO breed. Big cats are everywhere and the idea of “permits” is a joke…its not policed or checked enough. In OH, the laws are county by county.

    Big cats are everywhere and thats why/how we have them. The black cats that reported do not exist? Yep…they’re around too. No way it can be a mtn lion? yep…you’re right there…they’re black Jags or leopards that are bred in TX, LA or the deep south for the trade…sold, then escaped or released. I assure you this is true…I was part of a documentary that will soon be released.

    Lastly, the PGC MUST and DOES lie about this…they have to deny this issue to protect our rights due to the antis and greenies. if we have full disclosure on these cats as being WILD…hunting and trapping could be compromised. Truth!

  95. cygabe Says:

    Mountain Lions, both brown and black have been seen in the Friendsville area. I have seen 2 of them. Once about 5 years ago and just last week I saw a black one about one half mile from the village of Friendsville. It was in bright daylight crossing the road.

  96. hondarancher Says:

    This past weekend I was out riding my atv with 2 friends just west of bear creek,pa in luzurne county just off rt.115 when I saw running up the side of the hill a large dark color animal,I sped up to get a closer look when I noticed this was not a deer or bear but a cat.This cat had a 2 to 3ft long tail and was running up like it was hopping,my buddies behind started yelling its a cat “a big cat”I’ve been going to this area almost all my life.I’m a hunter who is always in the outdoors,calling my boss right away him being a game commision officer in pa told me,”no your not crazy but there are no lions in pa you dont know that”he then asked me to find tracks but no firearm on me means no search for now but I will be prepared next time……

  97. jokerboy Says:

    I wanted everyone to be aware that I spotted what seemed to be a cougar or mountain lion last night night around 9:15 in the Sewickley – Ohio Township area in the North Hills. I live in a gated community and was outside by our entry way to the house. I looked up at the small hillside in front of me and saw this walking to my right. It was 3 to 4 foot long and dark in color. It then perched itself in the bushes five feet away from the neighbor’s front doors. Hunters in the Mt. Nebo Road/Route 79 area be careful. This thing was on the prowl.

  98. Julsruls74 Says:

    Um There is most definitely a Puma/cougar/mountain lion dead, hit by a car from the looks of it, on the side of 376 E in Pittsburgh just before getting onto the Pennsylvania Turnpike.

  99. edthedart Says:

    We have had a sighting on my family’s property in Centre Co. It was on July 3rd in a field about 210 yds from the camp. It was killing a deer in the field and 2 ladies who also have a camp nearby heard the screaming of the deer and came to investigate. They got three pictures of it from a distance of probably 130-150 yards away. The pictures arent the clearest, but its pretty obvious to me that it is definitely bigger than a bobcat. A week or 2 after this incident, another local to the area was taking her standard-sized poodle for a walk and had a big cat come across the trail in front of them. She said it was much bigger than her dogs (and standard poodle are pretty big animals), was the color of a deer and had a long tail. Sounds like a mountain lion to me!!!! I have no way to post the pictures but have sent them to Fuzzie, so maybe he has a way to set up a link for you to click on.

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